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Symphonic Brass Masterclass Opener

Discussion in 'Tips, Tricks & Talk' started by Mike Verta, Jan 30, 2018.

  1. Mmm.. you know, starts in C, ends in C; a little stank in the middle. But it comes clean quick. Let's call it C+.
     
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  2. Project for tomorrow! Get ready to witness my lack of a balanced template (and other things, I'm sure).
     
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  3. A secondary consideration but it would be interesting to know which brass library everyone is using. Mike, did you use Adventure Brass?
     
  4. Yes I used Adventure Brass!
     
  5. Congrats @Mike Verta on a really nice 16 bars of music. Well written!

    I gave an arrangement a try based on the piano PDF by @Sylvain Provenzano and rendered with VSL Dimension Brass. Then I listened to the @Mike Verta version, and I like Mike's better. He makes better use of the trombones. Also, he uses the stair step up thing several times, and I only thought to use it once. But I still think mine is not too bad for an amateur. Here is a link.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/cs496q5z0j3ff2d/M. V. Symphonic Brass Opener.mp3?dl=0

    I used 3 trumepts, 4 horns, 2 trombones, bass trombone and tuba, each with its own patch. I kept the 4 horns unison throughout.

    I am really looking forward to this masterclass because I happen to LOVE BRASS.
     
  6. #26 Sylvain Provenzano, Feb 6, 2018
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  7. I can't wait to see and hear a real brass section play this piece.
    In anticipation of the Big Brass event, I gave Mike's Brass piece a try.
    I'm not too sure about the the voicing of the final chord so if anyone, Mike?, has a closer voicing to what Mike did, I'd love to hear it.
    Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/kicvkkrtn0hqd2s/Mike Verta Brass Cue.mp3?dl=0
     
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  8. Nice, Wayne!
     
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  9. I'm pretty sure it's a C 6/9 chord. To my ears it sound like it's re-voiced between the two versions. More top heavy in the Brass one.

    I might be way off.
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  10. Hey Doug, Thanks for chiming in.
    I agree with you that it's a C 6/9.
    All notes being concert, here is how I heard that last chord but I'm deaf in one ear and can't hear out of the other one. :)

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  11. Here's mine, I guess I'm wrong. :)
     

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  12. Well at least we all agree that the tuba is playing a low C.
    Interesting how differently we all heard this chord.
    Hopefully Mike will show us the voicing he used.
     
  13. I'll upload the score as soon as my website is back up; standby.
     
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  14. Thank you @Mike Verta. I have few questions before comparing the score to my transcription :

    - Is it the actual score for the mockup or have you adapted it for the upcoming masterclass brass section ?
    - How many tracks for each instrument did you use for the mockup ?
    - Why there is 2 notes on TP3 and only one on TP1&2 at measure 4 ? Is it a mistake ? Does it matter ?
     
  15. This is the actual score for the mockup. I used one track per instrument. Measure 4 is a mistake and yes it matters. The notes should be in tpt 1/2.
     
  16. #37 Rohann van Rensburg, Mar 14, 2018
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    I'm a bit confused -- the answer is likely obvious, but here I am. I'm a bit lost when it comes to writing/notating for transposed instruments (completely new, actually). In Mike's score, all instruments are written at concert pitch. Is it simply for ease of writing, after which one transposes to give to players so one doesn't have to transpose on the fly?
     
  17. I did the scores in concert pitch for ease of reading by people not used to transposed scores. Normally I write and read transposed.
    The players get transposed parts.
     
  18. Ah I see, thanks. Trying to figure it out was a good crash course in transposing instruments, at least.
    As an aside, do most competent (not me) composers tend to write transposed on the fly, or do they rely on a notation program's "concert pitch" features/transpose after arranging their piano piece?
     
  19. Learning to write/think transposed is not difficult, just takes some practice, and has many advantages when it comes to "getting in the vibe" of various instruments. Williams, Goldsmith, Horner, Silvestri, etc. all write/wrote transposed.
     
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