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Development Exercise

Discussion in 'Critique & Feedback' started by Michael Lückgen, Oct 28, 2019.

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  1. Hey Alex, thanks for your feedback and kind words!

    I think I know what you mean. I will try to fix this next time.
     
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  2. @Michael Lückgen in my opinion what you have above sounds really good, except the ending of course, which is way too abrupt. Your track sounds a lot like much of what we hear in media music today. If that is your goal, I can see it working just as is.

    If your goal is more aligned towards concert music or the classic Hollywood style of John Williams or Jerry Goldsmith, then you have a lot of work to do but you have a good start.

    As you mentioned above, a sonata form can help you build your piece by providing a framework for your ideas. Another helpful plan is to model a composition you like. If you are not familiar with modeling let me know and I can help with more details. Basically the idea is to use the modeled composition as a guide for your piece. The level of modeling can be very loose, to very detailed.
     
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  3. Thank you for your feedback!

    I think my goal comes down to telling a story with music. I'm not trying to copy a specific style or anything. And since I'm only doing this in my freetime I don't think I would be able to reach anything close to John Williams or Jerry Goldsmith. But I am interested in how they told stories. And I can not get my head around it yet, but it got a lot better since I watched Mike's Masterclasses.

    I mean I get the thing with adjusting harmony and adding tension to your theme dependent on the situation the character is in, or how the character is feeling. But then I would never feel the need to modulate because one can do every imaginable emotion in one key, or what am I missing here? Why did the grand masters do it then?
    I agree I still have a lot to learn :)

    I'm not familiar with modeling compositions and would be glad if you could explain that to me or point me to any resource where I can find out more about this :)
     
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  4. @Michael Lückgen I am just an amateur hobbyist composer, so take anything I offer with a grain of salt.

    First regarding modulation. Even to an untrained listener, modulation helps keep a piece sounding interesting and the modulations into the new keys add harmonic interest. Do not discount the value of repetition, and repetition in a new key will hold the interest of the listener extremely well.

    Williams "Raiders of the Lost Ark" theme is a great example. He repeats his core idea several times in the Raiders theme modulating from C to Db to keep it fresh. Listen to it without the score first and experience how the 5-minute composition holds interest and stays fresh in the ear. The 5 minutes seem to just fly by.



    In this second link below you can follow the score analysis with the music. When he modulates at M53 from C to Db I feel the excitement build and I can feel a lift. Then we modulate to G for the love them, and I think that modulation signals something new, something different is happening. It is repeated once modulated to Bb. Then several more repetitions of the hero motive with lone more modulation.



    Williams also varies the orchestration a bit, but not by much. The net effect is splendid, despite the simplicity. A very solid five-minute composition with very limited material.
     
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  5. Modeling can be of great help in writing. Let's take the Raiders theme above as an example.

    On a Big Picture level, you could decide to write a hero theme, then have a love theme, then back to the hero theme, and a quick ending. That would be a sort of big-picture modeling. Take it another step and model the keys, you will start in the key of C, the love theme will be in the key of G, then you will end in the key of F. Take it another step and include the other key changes, Start in C, modulate to Db, then G, then Bb, etc.

    Or you could model the melodic structure with or without modeling the keys. Start with 8 bar theme, repeated, then 8 bar B theme, using a common 2 bar ending segment for both. And so forth.

    You know that Williams used modeling a lot in his younger days. That is why people often accuse him of stealing other people's ideas. Most of the time he improved on the ideas he lifted. Anyway, the melody is what most of us tend to remember and focus on. So as long as you come up with original melodic or thematic material, modeling is not likely to be recognized as such, except by other composers.
     
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  6. Thank you very very much for the explanations!

    You're right I can definitely feel the excitement when he modulates from C to Db.
    I wonder... How should I decide to which key I should modulate to? The minor 2nd seems to be very exciting. Would a Tritone modulation have more of a tenseful feeling then?

    Also modeling seems quite useful, I will try that!
     
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  7. I don't think there is any exact answer on which keys to use. Listen for it in the pieces you like and study scores if you can. Cheers, and looking forward to your next piece. This one above indicates that you have a good ear and good musical instincts. I would love to hear more of your work.
     
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