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Mvt. IV - To Boldly Go

Discussion in 'Critique & Feedback' started by Paul T McGraw, May 23, 2019.

  1. #1 Paul T McGraw, May 23, 2019
    Last edited: May 23, 2019
    It has been about 9 or 10 months since I started work on "A Summer Symphony." Finally, the composition and an acceptable (to me) midi-performance are finished. After this, I want to polish up the score and parts, then post everything on IMSLP. I also intend to put my Sibelius files there if they will let me. If not, I will put my Sibelius files in one of the share sites, so at least during my lifetime, people can download the PDF score or the Sibelius score.

    But now comes the final movement, which is all about the end of boyhood and embarking on the adventure that is adulthood!

    "A Summer Symphony" – Fond memories of summer days of youth and coming of age in the 1960s.

    Mvt. IV – To Boldly Go– "Star Trek" captured our imagination in 1966, the year I turned 13. It was a year of transition from boyhood toward becoming a young adult. The summer of my childhood ended, which seems sad in retrospect; but it also marked the beginning of new adventures and new personal frontiers to explore and experience. It was a time “to boldly go” where every man has gone before.

     

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  2. Paul,

    Fantastic job! You really showed us how much dedication, thought, and hard work you've put into this symphony. I love the use of the Star Trek theme in this final movement.

    I hope we can expect a 2nd symphony in the future? :D

    Bravo!
     
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  3. Thanks, @Dillon DeRosa for the kind words and support. Actually, I am not certain of my next project, but I am leaning towards doing some absolute music, devoid of any extra-musical meaning. That could be a symphony but don't know yet.
     
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  4. Magnificent work Paul! I really hope you seek out and find a conductor willing to give this a live performance. I think there is an audience that will enjoy this as much as you would. In fact, I'll bet you a conductor baton that you can find an orchestra in your area that will give it a performance if you call around and meet school, college, and local city orchestra conductors. Give it a shot, in the worst case, you'll have a conductor baton (but I'm the one that really wants it, he he!).
     
  5. Thanks, Greg, I hope I do get to hear a live performance one day.
     
  6. Lovely, Paul! Really pulled me into it emotionally on the first listen. There's something that feels exciting and adventurous, but uncertain and slightly bittersweet about it. Life gets more depth, but the realities of life also become more apparent. Could be entirely my own interpretation of the piece, but in any case, wonderful job. This deserves a live performance, undoubtedly. I'd agree with Gregory, it's worth a shot!
     
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  7. Congratulations on finishing the symphony, no small feat to be sure! I listened to the piece before and intended to comment on it sooner, but life got in the way. It shouldn't really suprise anyone that your command of the brass section is superb, certainly worthy of the title "bold"! You have a great thematic throughline which makes me slightly jealous but is also a great joy to hear, especially in an age where it's so exceedingly rare to hear something symphonic that's thematic and cohesive for more than 30 seconds. At any rate, the only other comment I can offer about which I don't feel woefully unqaulified is that I personally would've enjoyed the opening brass theme to return at the very end in its fullest, warmest form (and with some of the tensions resolved). But perhaps that would be a little hammy. Since I can't offer much else in the way of useful comments, I thought I'd write down in a free form prose what I experienced the story to be (which is of course only one interpretation of your work)

    It all starts with that promising opening which feels like we're at the start of a great adventure. Perhaps we've gone off on our own into the wilderness on our bikes, preparing to race down a steep hillside. We take a deep breath, brace ourselves for descent and...off we go! Strings and woods add a wonderful forward energy to the section as go faster and faster down the hill, barely holding on to the steering wheel. It's a glorious midsummer afternoon, the kind that sets the sky on fire and pierces the canopy with rays of golden sunlight. Not only is there a rush of excitement, but an overpowering feeling of freedom too. Freedom from responsibility and all the adult worries of life as the wind blows in our face. We might even take both our hands off the steering wheel! But then we slow down, we've reached the bottom of the slope. There's a vantage point here, looking out over our hometown. What follows feels to me like a moment of reflection, perhap we discard our imaginary bike and leave it at the side of the road. Perhaps we take a moment to catch our breath in the shade of a nearby tree. The rush of excitement leaves us and something bittersweet takes hold. We want to hold on to the moment, fearing that something might be permanently lost if we don't, and yet we know we can't. We try to anyway. We struggle and struggle, and our struggle mounts until we're suddenly jerked back into the moment. We still have half a mountainside down to go! So we take up our bikes again and with renewed confidence peddle down the road. Not much later we've returned into town. Home isn't far off now. We shoot a glance over shoulder, gazing back up the mountain we braved and that picture is forever burned into our minds. With a smile on our face we gaze forward and return safely home.

    Thank you for sharing your work Paul, and again my sincere congratulations on completing the Symphony! I do very much hope we'll get to hear a live performance someday!
     
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  8. Wow, thank you @Matthias Calis for you comments and wonderful story. I truly appreciate hearing people like my work, as the encouragement helps me to keep trying to get better. Blessings to you, my friend.
     
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  9. You have every right to be encouraged! While I've always been able to connect to your work, I feel like with this symphony you've really grown from where you started since you joined this forum. I can't be entirely certain if I have heard all of your pieces, though I think I've heard most of what you posted here and with this symphony, this movement especially, it really feels like you've taken a big leap forward. For me, you were already at a good starting point, but now you've reached the domain where the first time I listened to this, I entirely forgot about listening critically and just immersed myself in the music. But before I go off into a ramble...

    I'm curious how you experienced the process of writing the symphony...did you chip away at it or write each movement at a time? Did you ever go back to an early movement while writing a later one? Are there things you would approach differently next time you set out on writing a work like this?
     
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  10. Great questions! I started late summer or early fall of 2018. I had just finished writing "Brass Quintet in F minor" and began with the first movement. I suppose first came the idea to write a symphony about my memories of summer as a boy. I thought that would provide me with plenty of inspiration. I wanted each of the movements to be in a definite classical form. My favorite composers are Dvorak and Tchaikovsky, and in their symphonies, they were always loyal to the traditional forms. So I began working on the first movement knowing it should be a sonata movement, and wanting it to be upbeat and pastoral. While working on the first movement I developed the main ideas for the fourth movement concurrently. I was wracked with doubts about the fourth movement. I did not want people to think I was ripping off "Star Trek". Finally, based on advice from @Doug Gibson I decided to just cut loose and actually quote (sort of) the opening of the 1966 TV show to make it obvious I was writing about Star Trek and from that point it was just fun to write. I worked on the fourth movement off and on while writing the other movements. I used typical Hollywood sounding harmonies and just tried to keep the momentum. I was tempted to do more modulation and development. However, doing so would weaken the impression of "end credits" so I didn't. I did throw in a modulation to Db and return to C major near the end because my ears wanted a little harmonic variety.

    By the way, @Doug Gibson was an enormous help to me in writing "A Summer Symphony" as well as the "Brass Quintet in F minor". My ears are old and not as sharp as they once were. Doug caught so many of my pitch mistakes that it is a bit embarrassing. He also offered many helpful suggestions, most of which I gratefully accepted. For example, in the first movement, as the exposition of the primary theme ends and an episode using the A theme material begins, Doug recommended I have the Horn play a long-held note to sort of bridge the two sections. His suggestion vastly improved the flow of the piece. And that was despite the fact that he didn't even like the episode at all. Many times various sections or ideas that I liked, Doug did not like at all. But despite that, he helped me with encouragement and sometimes suggestions for improvement.

    Working with Doug was not like the composition lessons I had in college (I majored in music) because it was much better. Doug worked with me on a weekly basis for about 7 or 8 months. I set the agenda, and Doug tried to help me in any way he could. And yes, I did pay Doug for his time, and yes, in my opinion, it was money well spent! We all need encouragement, honest feedback, and someone who knows enough about our abstract art to actually offer knowledgable advice. Doug fits that description admirably.

    Beginning in January I focused on trying to improve my midi-performances and also trying to get scores ready to post on the IMSLP website. So I haven't written anything new. But I sure miss writing new music, and I miss working with Doug. Perhaps soon I can get back to writing new pieces.
     
  11. Oh, two more things that might help others. I work directly in Sibelius. Sometimes I use a keyboard to hammer out something, but not usually. As a general rule, I have to hear something in my mind first, then I write it in Sibelius. As I work on the draft of a new piece, I always have a "harmony part" where I keep track of the harmonies I am using. Sometimes I forget what I was trying to do, and the harmony track helps remind me. Also, sometimes I plan out the harmonies before I write out any melodic lines. And lastly, since I am no keyboard player, and never have been, I try to first write for the strings. I will then add one line for woodwinds represented by clarinets and one line for brass represented by horns. I try to resist the temptation to fully orchestrate a section until that section is drafted.

    Well, that was probably more info that you wanted. Blessing to you my friend.
     
  12. I'll have to do a critique video on this, because much in the first 20 seconds alone has me scratching my head. I'll try to get to that later today!
     
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  13. Thanks, I am sure I would benefit from your input! Plus it will be fun to get your reaction. Several years ago I mentioned to you that one of my musical goals was to somehow meld concert music and classic film music. I think this is as close as I have come so far. But I am sure it could be better.
     
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  14. Just wanted to say thank you so much for your super kind words @Paul T McGraw.

    I have been pretty sick lately and reading this has lifted my mood greatly.

    A ray of sunshine.

    Thank you sincerely, and many best wishes

    Doug
     
  15. @Doug Gibson sorry to hear you have been sick. I know from experience how hard it is to keep functioning when ill. I sure hope you feel better soon.
     
  16. Huh... I've relistened and I don't hear anything odd...You've got me scratching my head now!
     
  17. Yes I'll do this, just need to find a moment
     
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