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Mixing orchestra

Discussion in 'Tips, Tricks & Talk' started by Thomas Bryla, Mar 24, 2018.

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  2. I am going to give you the most useless, but also the most sincere answer. To my ears this sounds absolutely gorgeous and I wouldn't change a thing. That said, I don't consider myself much of a mixing expert. @Aaron Venture is the guru in that area here :). I am sure he might still have a tip or two, I frankly trust his ears a bit better than my own.

    That said, I really dig this whole thing! And I don't mean that in a "I love pizza" kind of way, no this honestly moved me. Everything from the composition down to the orchestration and mixing is just right in my opinion. Bringing it back down to the mixing aspect, I especially dig the "warmth" of the strings, they sound very full and rich which can be partially explained by the strings playing so low, but is certainly also affected by the engineering and mixing that went into this.

    I am sorry I don't have any specific advice, but I felt that simply saying that this sounds very good to someone else might still be valuable feedback. The most important question, of course, is whether you like it or not. While there's some degree of objectively good or bad mixing, there's also a large degree of subjectiveness to it. If you're pleased with it and there aren't any glaring issue, why change it? Food for thought...
     
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  3. Thanks for your kind and honest reply, Matthias!
    I like it the way it is, but I'm still uncertain that my mixing environment is ideal. I often have had the feedback of my mixes (fortunately not in any professional delivery!) were low - so I'm trying to find the spot for the dynamics for example.
    Also I'm not trying to do too much processing - simply a channel strip plugin that doesn't do much and some reverb and try to pan it according to tree-sound.
     
  4. Nice piece. I actually like the first mix better, though the wider panning is nice in #2. My taste (starting from #2) would be a bit less midrange (1k-ish?), a bit more bass, and some more reverb. A/B with some of your favorite-sounding stuff.
     
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  5. Thanks Jeff!
    Reworked it from the ground: https://www.dropbox.com/s/eyvtqbdh4eim966/Bushido_v3.wav?dl=0
    People probably know this, but A/B'ing helps a lot! I'm no mix engineer but this has really helped.
     
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  6. Huge improvement!

    Even pros A/B their mixes sometimes, it's easy to lose perspective.
     
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  7. Thanks :)
     
  8. What a lovely piece!

    Wow, that v1 was noisy as hell :D

    Version 2 was better, and version 3 sounds pretty good. I think that the crash cymbal jumps out a bit. If that's the tree sound, then you'll have to do with some multiband compression to tame it. If it's the cymbal mic making it jump out, do it there. If you want it to be brighter, you'll need some de-noise.

    Where was this recorded, if you don't mind my asking?
     
  9. Thanks for the feedback! I think I had the monitors very low when doing the first version.

    I think I could tame the cymbals with the close mics.

    This was done in Budapest - but don't use my mixes as a reference as to how they sound. When they mix the music, it sounds wonderful!
     
  10. All right. Just try to "push" them towards the rest of the mix.

    Shared sessions with Budapest Scoring? Wow, great performance!

    Are you just trying your hand at the stems or are the mixing services separate?
     
  11. I book through Eastconnection.org. Usually I have one or two sessions pr. day. I don't know anything about the shared sessions.

    I'm just trying to learn mixing with the material I have :)
     
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  12. Thanks for the info! Do post a new version once you get it done.
     
  13. @Thomas Bryla the composition is very beautiful. The third mix is just terrific, and a big improvement over 1 and 2. I listened on both my consumer desktop speakers and on my music room monitors. Both sound perfect.
     
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  14. Thank you very much Paul!
     
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