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Z clef

Discussion in 'Tips, Tricks & Talk' started by Doug Gibson, Aug 8, 2017.

  1. Someone in another topic mentioned the Scott Smalley Z clef. I took the seminar .... oh 12 years ago. (He talks about aliens, and how we should accept them into our life. In general he is a kinda weird dude)

    I am NOT endorsing or arguing against it.

    I thought I would post some of the notes I have from that seminar just to give some context to the technique.
    I think one important thing to note is he "invented"
    (he did not BTW.... anyone who reads all 7 clefs really can do this on the fly in ones head) this system as
    scores moved away from transposing to concert pitch. Also he was getting viola parts in treble etc.

    Thus, when having to move at a fast speed he needed to have some kind of system. Also keep in mind he was not overdubbing or laying samples etc.
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    The Z Clef theory

    The Z clef theory came about for Smalley as a necessary reaction to the change from transposed scores to concert scores, now used on the scoring stages of Hollywood. This change was instigated by Danny Elfmann’s “hostile take over “ of the Hollywood film- scoring scene. The benefits of using concert scores on the scoring stage is that composers and conductors can address any questions fielded from a session orchestra quickly, without having to be concerned about the transposition of each instruments, thus correcting misspellings of chords or notes quickly. The side affect of concert scores is that no longer can good instrument and section voicings be immediately seen on the score. That is, a transposed score shows what the players are reading and can quickly reveal if an instrument family is playing in an equal (relative) register, with equal timbre and strength. Without this facility, a new method of checking chord voicings was necessary, the z clef.

    The z clef is a measuring tool to establish if instruments are playing with equal timbre and strength. Its application is particularly useful when choosing voicings for instrument sections playing accompanying figures. Batman by Danny Elfmann in bar 16 is the best example of why the z clef is necessary when writing concert scores. It can be seen in this example that the chord voicing on beat one in the strings is weak and has come about for two reasons.

    1. The string voicings have been writing from a keyboard using a sequencer and a sample string library. The voicing seen in the Batman example is heavily divided in the violas and cellos. Put simply, it sounded great on the sequencer but didn’t account for the fact that when strings perform divisi, they lose dynamic impact.

    2. The voicing used created on the keyboard is an easy “chord shape” on the keyboard, however, when transferred to real strings the voicing is in no way sympathetic to strings.
    To avoid poor chord voicings for strings or any section of the orchestra the z clef “acid test” can be applied. In principle the z clef “acid test” measures two aspects of a chord voicing:

    1. The spacing of each voice/instrument within a 6th of each other on the z clef

    2. The lowest voice/instrument sitting either withing the 6th (created in the z clef)

      or outside of this 6th as dictated by the harmony.
    This concept of good chord voicing comes from traditional SATB writing. That is Soprano, Alto must note be further than a 6th from each other and so to Alto and Tenor, the Bass can be independent of the other parts as is dictated by the harmony.

    The poor Batman String voicing isolated is as follows:

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    The process application of the z clef to check this voicing is simple. Transferring the notes of each instrument from their original clef to the z clef without changing its position on the stave. That is, disregard the clef the note originated from and write the note in the same position on the stave on the z clef. For simplicities sake, accidentals have not been transferred to the z clef, as they are inconsequential.

    As is seen here, the chord voicing is weak because not all the notes sit within an interval of a 6th. Violin II plays the lowest note on the z clef. This note and the instrument playing it is being cancelled out by the other instruments causing the overall chord to be weaker that necessary. As previously mentioned, further contributing to the weakness of the chord is the divisi Viola and Cello writing in this section. As can be noted by the activity in the other sections of the orchestra, a stronger chord voicing is necessary for the strings to be heard.


    The steps to create better chord voicings and avoid the afore mentioned problem can be done by using the z clef in the following way:

    1. Choose the melody note or highest note for the chord.

    2. Add the bass note as dictated by the harmony. (This note can sit within a 6th of

      the melody note on the z clef or outside of this range.

    3. Add the 3rd of the chord, checking that it sits within a 6th from the melody note on

      the z clef.

    4. Add the 5th of the chord, checking that it sits within a 6th from the melody note on

      the z clef.

    5. Add the final note of the chord for a complete string section voicing, checking

      that it sits within a 6th from the melody note on the z clef.

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    The aggregate of this approach to voicing chords for strings, which also has application to brass or woodwind, is that each instrument within the section is physically playing (relatively speaking) in the same place on the instrument, giving each instrument equal opportunity to be heard. Following this method through to its logical conclusion, it can be observed that as the melody or highest note rises in pitch so to do the lower notes of the chord voicing, each in their relative range to the melody note. This progressive rise in pitch creates an equal increase in intensity of sound for all instruments concerned, causing perpetual balance within a section.
     
  2. #2 Aaron Venture, Aug 8, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2017
    Great post, Doug.

    Really interesting to hear the story behind it too. Great illustration of a thing to be mindful of when writing for samples vs. for players.

    In practice, how often do you turn to this method?
     
  3. Is the question how much I personally use this, or in general how much do people use this ?

    Somewhere on the forum is the thread in which another member talks about it's uses and benefits. I would say it's pretty niche, as you had to attend
    Smaller's course to learn about it. It's his "invention".

    I put "invention" in quotes, because it's simply a case (IMO) of what is old becoming new again. The main reason for it was for streamlining workflow.
    The concepts and ideas under the Z-clef are in every orchestration book. From memory the Piston book goes into great detail about balance.
    He had to orchestrate 30-40 pages a day so this became a measuring stick.

    One point that really needs to be emphasized is Smalley was used to working in transposing scores. That's really the whole point - he was reverse engineering from transposed to concert pitch.....not the other way around. That's why I made that box to state the Z clef shows what the player sees not the sounding pitch.

    "That is, a transposed score shows what the players are reading and can quickly reveal if an instrument family is playing in an equal (relative) register, with equal timbre and strength. Without this facility, a new method of checking chord voicings was necessary, the z clef."

    Where this, I suspect, was really needed was finding a way to balance loud brass and the rest of the orchestra. I am sure you have read the general principle that 2 horns are needed to equal the sound of 1 trumpet. Let's say for example you have a A minor in first inversion

    Concert pitch

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    Transposing

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    If look at the end result to the Batman score I posted, you'll see that basically the chord is now more in-line with the overtone series.

    Before it was Root- 3rd (which in a lot of traditional books the D bass clef is the lower limit for 3rds) and then a lot of doubling the root higher etc.
    The final result shows the Root-5th-3rd which is what every orchestration book will talk about due to the overtone series.

    But, again the main point is he need to check balance issue within concert pitch scores.

    It's a topic for another day, but I am glad I learner to read all 7 clefs. It does the same as the Z, so yes I think about it all the time but...... it's is pretty fluent now. I had to learn all 7 clefs as it's apart of Fixed do (cough, cough) training. I think it is very important to be able to read transposing scores fluently.

    For example - if on the spot you need to know the pitch of the trumpet just think in tenor. For the horns: mezzo-soprano

    This way you can check harmonies on the spot without having to to think about it. I would know right away the chord.
    (I'm sure those moveable doh cats can too....cough ....cough)

    The transposed score would reflect more the balance of the registers.
     
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  4. Cool post, but sorry: I really didn´t understand here much to nothing...
    One very basic question: I really didn´t understand from your text how you transform the notes into the Z Clef. I read your text a couple of times and I really don´t get it. So..a). I am missing basic knowledge? b). I am too dumb to understand fundamentals in this regards? c). your explanation skips certain steps which are mandatory to understand this theory? Anyone else?
     
  5. @Doug Gibson Phenomenal. Thanks for clearing it up in such detail!
     
  6. #6 Noam Levy, Aug 9, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2017
    @Alexander Schiborr to transform the notes he is moving each note onto one shared staff without transposing any of them. So if a note is on the top line of its staff, he places it on the top line of the Z clef; if it's on the second open space of its staff, it goes on the second open space of the Z clef. etc. Regardless of what the pitch is.

    The Z clef is just an approximation of the principle that any given note on the cello has tessitural equivalency with the note an octave higher on the viola, and the note an octave+5th higher on the violin.

    By tessitural equivalency I mean they are in the same position in the instrument's range.

    If a cellist is playing a note, and all of a sudden POOF the instrument shrinks down to become a viola but he's still holding down the same note on the same string, that's tessitural equivalency.

    For example the C below middle C is the fourth note on the 2nd string (G) for the cellos. The fourth note on the 2nd string (G) for the violas is the middle C. The fourth note on the 2nd string (D) for the violins is the G above middle C.

    the approxmation of the Z-clef works because these notes - just like any other set of notes that have tessitural equivalency - are very close to being the same positions on their relative staffs:

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    If we did the Z technique and moved them all onto one staff they would form this tight cluster:

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    When notes are close together "in Z space" then they have tessitural equivalency.

    When they're far apart "in Z space" then they will have increasingly different timbres because each of the strings has a different timbre and, to some degree, a different inherent loudness. The lower strings are duller and warmer, while the upper strings are more nasal and piercing, on each of the three instruments.

    So if the timbres are roughly equivalent, you'll get a good blended sound. If they're far apart, the instrument that is playing tessiturally higher - meaning, not higher in pitch, but higher on the instrument - is going to make itself the foreground and push other timbres to the background. This can be used deliberately, of course. But if the goal is to blend that instrument with the others, then the voicing is a mistake.

    The goal is not to have everybody playing in the same tessitura at all times, but to manage tessitural blend/contrast the same way you manage consonance/dissonance in harmony. Make it work to make the listener pay attention to what you want them to hear.
     
  7. Probably the most obvious answer is attending the Smalley orchestration workshop. I have the benefit of hearing it from him in person and the numerous
    questions asked by other participants. Noam has posted a nice response above. (I stress again I am just reporting about this, not advocating it's use.)

    I'll see if I can give a helpful answer with as few words as possible.
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    Our modern notation system evolved from vocal music.
    Imagine S,A,T,B.
    Our vocal chords and breath define the dynamic curve

    Think of each section of the orchestra (excluding horns)
    Imagine they are S,A,T,B

    Read Noam's post again.
    Look over my post again

    Let me know if it makes sense.
     
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  8. Thank you both guys for taking your time to help me. I much appreciate that and will later on in the day go and read both of your comments and let you know if I have more question. Again: Thank you! :)
     
  9. Does the Z clef concept apply to woodwinds and brass as well?
     
  10. Oui.

    The one exception for the brass is that Smalley talked about the need for 4 trumpets, and the 4th trumpet doubling 1 an octave lower.
    Reasoning for this is similar to big band writing, i.e for a full sound, the melody must be doubled in the lower octave with the remaining instruments voiced inside the said octave.
     
  11. I must be getting old because this continues to come across like a solution looking for a problem.
     
  12. I would agree with you. I also think the "problem" is null for us. You are comfortable with transposed scores, and I am taking an educated guess
    you don't write your viola parts in treble clef, and you already know about spacing the notes wider in the lower register etc.
     
  13. Well... I'm thinking about how I'm teaching my son about it, and the total amount of energy and time needed to teach him to be comfortable with transpositions and clefs, vs. the time it would take him to learn a compensatory method for lack of understanding and the ROI just doesn't seem worth it. When something is not inherently complex, merely takes a bit of dedication and practice, then I am loathe to entertain "solutions" for learning it. I think in ways there might be a fine line between having tricks or techniques or tips and stuff like this, but wherever that line is, this feels over it to me. Certainly, my 6-year-old is drilling clefs and transpositions while he's learning his times tables. Just puttting it in there with some flashcards and such really isn't hard.

    It's like "new math," you know? My son learned "old math" and he can...do math. Meanwhile STEM numbers are plummeting and Common Core kids get 2/3rds of credit for not coming up with the right answer. Don't want to derail with that, but it just feels similarly gimmicky, inefficient and unnecessary. Get off my lawn.
     
  14. I took the class from Scott and it was helpful for me. But mainly he made me realize that the clef a musician sees is customized to the range of their instrument. The bottom lines will be the low & weak part of their range, the top lines will be the strong & piercing part of their range, and above that starts to thin. So just understanding that for a section to blend they should all be at the top or bottom of their (transposed) range was helpful.

    I do occasionally think about Zed clef when orchestration isn't working. Rules are useful when you're not sure what the problem is, falling back on Proper Form can help me figure it out.

    And Scott's stories about aliens, pot, and pyramids are all part of his charm. He was talking about the 442Hz (432Hz? whatever) tuning thing before anyone else.
     
  15. The 432Hz, where Hertz is defined as cycles-per-second, but the definition of "one second" is an arbitrary (and ever-evolving) variable rendering the concept nonsense; that 432Hz? Well surely the concept of Z-Clef is considerably more useful than that.
     
  16. #16 Doug Gibson, Aug 12, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2017
    Good to hear about teaching your son the various clefs and transpositions. Acquiring this skills is available to musicians of all ages
    with right amount of rigour, focus and regular practice. I think I stated a few times, I was "reporting" about it with the notes I took in the seminar.

    Ha ! Write your congressman too ? Threaten him with "if any of my tax dollars goes to this" statements.
    Walk 6 miles in the snow uphill both ways to school and you liked it.

    We are in our 40's; too young for get off my lawn comments. (I live in Manhattan so..... I won't be saying that phrase anytime soon.)
     
  17. What ? You don't think little Suzy Johnston getting up to tune the orchestra of St.Mary's elementary school in Odessa Texas is covertly and knowing spreading the Nazi propaganda of Joseph Goebbels with A = 440 so we will all accept a one world government ? Come on..... thats obvious. Look at Itzhak Perlman tuning A=440 .... total Nazi spy.
     
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  18. But 432Hz the resonant frequency of the Pyramid of Giza! And it was Mozart and Verdi's tuning fork. And everyone in the world has perfect pitch.

    https://attunedvibrations.com/432hz/
     
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  19. Right, and since the length of one second was different in Mozart's time than today it was a different 432. Logic, reason, and a grasp of mathematics continue to be skill sets in depressingly short supply.
     
  20. Nah, not really.

    The reason it applies to the strings is because they are so alike in their construction, and the open strings are in nearly the exact same places on each staff.

    With the brass & winds, they're all very different instruments. So the idea of instruments being softer, warmer and duller in their low range doesn't apply to every instrument (for instance... the oboe).

    But the basic concept that "transposed instruments are transposed so that every musician is reading most of their notes inside the staff" still applies to nearly every musical instrument. And from this, it's easy to understand each instrument's natural range.

    Like the fact that the F horn is an alto instrument, is naturally clear from reading its parts the right way (transposed).


    I agree. It's best to just know how to write for every instrument in its transposed notation. I never thought of Z-clef as a way of getting around knowing this but then I never took Scott's course, I picked up this concept from someone else explaining it on a forum (I think the Soundsonline forum?) and then thinking about it more in my own compositions...
     
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