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Alan Silvestri - Ready Player One (Theme) Transcription

Discussion in 'Score Study Resources' started by Aaron Venture, Jun 10, 2018.

  1. I recently made some changes to my transcription workflow and will now focus in detail on orchestration as well, rather than focusing on getting the composition down to two-handed piano and then doing an orchestration sketch. So I might as well document stuff that I transcribe this way here.

    First piece:


    I've transcribed the first 8 bars. I'll post more as I make progress. Everyone's welcome to comment on my transcription, if I've missed something or made a mistake. Also feel free to share your own.

    Concert pitch.

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  2. Bravo !!

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    Thats what I am talking about AV styles. Hell yeah. I need the inspiration too, or I get lazy.

    Just a quick look over the excerpt - I don't know the piece - it looks plausible.

    Your harp gliss has left you. That is just a silly Sibelius thing I am sure, but it looks odd to see one dinky note. (Unless I can't see it. How do
    you make the score full screen ?)

    The other thing..... and I am listening only through my MacBook speakers without headphones so the audio quality is poor --- is the Cello might be divisi
    to double the trombone part. Try it out and see.


    Is this thread only for takes on this cue or can I post another full score on here ?

    Time to get motivated

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  3. :D
    Indeed. I probably hit "Undo". I've set it up so that all my important commands are on my mouse so the workflow is a breeze, but sometimes I'll accidentally click the undo button :)

    Middle-clicking any link will open it in a new tab.

    The second trombone? For trombones I literally copies over the viola part. Actually if I drop the upper bone voice an octave it makes more sense along with the BTbn as tight triads, and then cello doubling that (now lower) voice would be
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    I opened the thread for this cue so we can discuss it/analyze it and together arrive at the end. I'll post my updates here and will drop the final PDF/XML here at the end. I'd love to improve my analysis skills too so it'd be great to hear/see how someone else looks at things.

    Feel free to open a new one, I'm sure no one will mind :cool:
     
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  4. Hmm,...yes.....that is a distinct possibility. :oops:

    Ok..... so I put on my head phones and middle clicked:)confused:) on your score.

    First, and main comment would be to correct the accidentals. Sibelius does not do this very well. You can probably just run the "flats to sharps" plug in
    under the notation menu. It's actually pretty important. Those Eb's are confusing. Since it is so clearly tonal then accidentals have more of a road map/landmark role. For example, since we are in B major, if in the next measure we have Eb's then there would be some kind of enharmonic shift, causing us to be thrown to the other side of the circle of 5ths. Let's say he used the D# (3rd) as the Eb (b7th) of the next harmony. F7 for example.

    Now F7 sets up an expectation in our ears/mind. We get a sign pointing to Bb, and that set-up can either be confirmed or denied (ie. deceptive cadence)


    Second: Use BOLD dynamics. Make sure you are holding down command (mac) or right click on mouse while you type.
    This seems "ticky-tacky" until it is put on the podium and the conductor is about 3-5 feet away from the music. It just pops out more, and has a
    much more professional look.

    Third: Slurs Gone Wild ! Yes, everyones favorite spring break party romp is back. Especially in the Bassoon, Trombone and Cello at measure 8.
    Also while you are at it: fix the stem direction. Cello and Trombones for sure.

    Regarding the Cello at 7. Since you have the unison later, make sure the note on beat 1 has stems in both directions. It's very confusing as of now.

    Lastly: measure 5 clear out the B on the Cello, and drop the bass trombone/Bassoon down an octave.

    In big band writing you often read more about "lower limits". That C# next to the B (major 2nd) in that register is going to create a "mud" sound.

    Try isolating it in the playback.

    If you have Bass, Tuba, BassTombone, Bassoon, and give your ContraBassoon the B too that is more than enough support.
     
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  5. As an aside to specific comments on this transcription attempt, I loved this score and the production quality. Easily my favorite score of the year so far. I'm glad you're doing it.
     
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  6. I actually did this and (somewhat) understand why it needs to be done, but that Eb escaped me! You can see the D# in the previous bar - it was also an Eb once. I did it manually note by note, but I'll check out that plug-in. And thanks for the further clear-up.

    Roger

    It's still early and my coffee is still too hot. Do you mean that thy're not "pointing" to where they should?

    Can I manually do it? Or do I have to insert another voice? Also can I manually change the stem direction?

    Sorry, where exactly? Second page, right?

    Also, do I have to write "divisi" for wind instruments? It should be implied, no?
     
  7. I made you a little video re the notation. It goes by fast, but I figure you can always pause, and go back as needed.

     
  8. Thanks for the notation video Doug and the great tips!

    General Question: Why is it that audio guys rarely do narration on their videos? Even the laziest gamers and vloggers put narration on their videos. Surely its not the routing of the audio and mic as I'm sure all musicians know how to do that. Surely its not laziness, musicians are the hardest workers. So what is it? Maybe they don't like the sound of their voice?

    We'd love to hear you!
     
  9. Downsides and upsides for both. Not too much information to share using words, and it's more about the picture? Text works without sound/on mute and you can pause and read it, instead of having to rewind and listen over and over again.

    A lot of thoughts that you have to share in order to get the entire idea across? Speech is much easier and the experience will feel more natural with you talking rather than the viewer having to pause every 2 seconds to read your huge chunk of text.
     
  10. Cause ya'll a bunch of cheap ass mother-fuckers who don't pay me shit for this. :)

    Talk to my agent. Doug Gibson does not fucking step foot in any room for under $2,000.

    If you want I can make a version where I not only speak but you can see me too.

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    I hope you can tell the above reply is just my humor. I do have many videos in which I actually speak. Also ones where you can see me.



     
  11. #11 Aaron Venture, Jun 18, 2018
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2018
    Next two pages

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    I like how there's a 16th note at the end of the run in m.12, to just let it break apart from the following line. And this entire brass voicing for the B section is so simple.

    Then there's the ascending pizz in the celli in m.13 and m.14 that makes these two measures feel like they're on hold, before the downward motion pushes the momentum further. It's a simple fill with the violas and there's always more than half an octave of space between the violas and the violin line, so the melody remains clear.

    Violas are spread thin, but horns and clarinets help cement the harmony. I winged the clarinets in m.16 and m.17—I can't actually hear them, but that's how I would do it and it makes sense to me. Please tell me if I'm wrong.

    The runs in m.16 and m.17 are also simple (they always are, no?), always having chord tones and using passing tones from the scale as well as adding the 7th to the chord.

    Low strings, timps and cymbals ascend up until the final 16th note, and at that point even out with the dynamic of the hit in the climax (next page, but not finished yet).
     
  12. Thanks for doing this Aaron. I love Ready Player One so much (easily one of the best films I have seen in years and probably one of the best films I have ever watched). And Silvestri's music was amazing! I shall follow this with great interest. I would love to be able to do what you are doing and not sure how to start.
     
  13. Hey Luke,

    Thanks, I'll post an update later today. I'll copy my answer to Connor from VI-C.

    Start with the first note of the melody! Or whatever the tune starts with. After that...

    Try figuring out the bass notes, they should be the simplest to figure out right after the melody. Along with the melody, you should be able to figure out the chord. If you're doing score study, you've already seen the various ways in which a chord can be outlined.

    Also, the melody should tell you which scale you're in, and you can probably—like most of the people who have been listening to western music since they were born—detect tonicism, borrowed chords and modulations, since a lot of popular music we have been exposed to so often sticks to just one key.

    So it's the process of elimination. You know the scale and/or you know two tones. Does it sound like a major or a minor chord? Or a 7th? Diminished, Augmented? You get my point.

    It takes practice, but after a while it gets a lot easier. You just have to keep at it.


     
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  14. Thanks man. You're a star.
     
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  15. I wish! ;)
     
  16. #16 Alexander Schiborr, Oct 25, 2018
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    PS: I finally was having the chance seeing the movie on a long plane ride back to Germany. However..I couldn´t believe that this piece of shit was done by steven Spielberg. This movie is so all over the place and has no merit and shitty dialogues and script holes and no red thread whatsoever, such a ridiculous piece of major crap I haven´t seen in a long long long time. It is saddening to see that Steven was really responsible for that? I still can´t believe that. Did anybody of you see that movie? While I think still that theme silvestri did is fine..the rest of his underscores..oh my..are bits and pieces of non cohesive references of his older stuff but without any interlocking reason and development..so shit..it is unbelievable. This movie is intended probably for 12 year old gaming kids which have absolutely no attention span. This movie is utterly the biggest piece of shit which I saw probably in the last decade...OR I simply am too stupid to understand the genious behind that movie? holy crap on earth..and then this movie has really 7.6 of 10 on imdb? Wtf? This movie traumatized my brain neurons and synapses...:confused:

    Edit: Ok, nobody asked about how I find the movie, still I thought to share my feelings..and still thinking main theme is cool, really cool there..man. Probably they have could done much better with that movie and material just imo.
     
  17. Spielberg showed up, directed 11 minutes of footage and collected his check. The rest was CG. Sweet gig.
     
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  18. Yeah..most of the movie is CG, but does that mean he is not creatively involved in the direction of that material? I don´t know, you know better how that works there, so I am curious about that. Did you see the movie? Just in case: What do you think of it?
     
  19. The odd thing about Ready Player One was that when I took my son to the cinema to watch it, I thought I had really enjoyed it. On my my out of the theatre I made a note to myself that this was a film to pick up on Bluray and put on the projector.

    But I have never ever felt the urge to re-watch the film. I've even put it on a couple of times, and then turned it off and gone off to do something else.....
     
  20. #20 Luke Johnson, Nov 13, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2018
    The extras from the 3D Blu ray say quite the opposite. Spielberg said it’s the second hardest film he has ever directed (the first being Saving Private Ryan).

    Aside note, the extras with Silvestri, he explains that the choir singing in Latin in the opening scene (Introducing the Oasis) have them singing the words “Find the Easter Egg” and it was Silvestri’s idea to plant that as the films very first Easter Egg. I love that. There’s so many little details like that through the film but hey ho, we all like what we like.
     

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